Green top Generation change?
Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:44 am
I came across several new green top Generation whistles with a very narrow (roof to floor) windway. Has Generation changed their mold again?
Interesting. I've been thinking about picking up one of those Generation "Folk Whistles" simply because I prefer green to the red fipples that comes on the standard brass model. Apart from more backpressure (I assume), any speculation as to how this narrower windway might affect the playing characteristics or sound?Tommy wrote:I came across several new green top Generation whistles with a very narrow (roof to floor) windway. Has Generation changed their mold again?
Might have to treat it with Dupanol to prevent condesation cloging. Or with dish soap.JackJ wrote:Interesting. I've been thinking about picking up one of those Generation "Folk Whistles" simply because I prefer green to the red fipples that comes on the standard brass model. Apart from more backpressure (I assume), any speculation as to how this narrower windway might affect the playing characteristics or sound?Tommy wrote:I came across several new green top Generation whistles with a very narrow (roof to floor) windway. Has Generation changed their mold again?
I'm not sure whether this is actually the case or if the image isn't in perfect focus, but it looks to me like the edge of the labium looks both less sharp and slightly less even in the green than the blue one. I'm far from an expert in instrument acoustics, but one of the things I read about people doing when they tweak whistles is to hone the edge of the labium, so I'd suspect that could contribute to it being "a terrible whistle".PB+J wrote:I just picked up one of the "folk" whistles this morning. Other than color and a certain amount of shoddiness in the casting, I can't see a difference. I didn't measure it, but they look the same to me
It's a terrible whistle though, very hard to play (for me, a beginner) and prone to rattling and cracking, and the second octave gets very cloggy very fast
It does have a nice tone. The blue one is dramatically easier to play. Neither comes close to the Killarney D whistles, which are just more consistent and responsive
A smaller wind way from roof to floor, allows condensation/moisture to accumulate sooner when the wet on the roof touches the wet on the floor. Some players have more condensation/moisture than others. One speculation is that when something touchers the mouth more saliva is produced to prepare for eating. With practice this can be overcome.Opisthokont wrote: Not sure why it would clog faster -- I could speculate but only quite irresponsibly...!
Yes, when a labium edge is not blunt enough the whistle may not play well, or if it is to blunt.Opisthokont wrote: I'm not sure whether this is actually the case or if the image isn't in perfect focus, but it looks to me like the edge of the labium looks both less sharp and slightly less even in the green than the blue one. I'm far from an expert in instrument acoustics, but one of the things I read about people doing when they tweak whistles is to hone the edge of the labium, so I'd suspect that could contribute to it being "a terrible whistle".
Injected mold plastic whistle heads do not all cool to the same preferred shape. Tweaking can cure it.PB+J wrote: It does have a nice tone. The blue one is dramatically easier to play. Neither comes close to the Killarney D whistles, which are just more consistent and responsive
I'm going to spend some time reading up on "tweaking" and see if I can make the "folk" whistle play better. It's really interesting why they play differently
I don't know about that now.Mr Gumby can speak more to this