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Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:30 pm
by Bretton
Hi! I've been playing traditional Irish tunes on the whistle for years, but I've got a hankering to try something different. Anyone have recommendations for other specific tunes that fit on the whistle (it's range and diatonic limitations)? I don't mind half-holing to get an f-natural or g-sharp now and then, but wouldn't want to play tunes that require a lot of them.

I'm thinking maybe classical or early music, or maybe tunes from other traditions (I do know a few Scottish, Quebecois, and Shetland ones, but they're very similar to Irish) ? Or, if there are any jazz standards that sound good as solo pieces.

If you have any suggestions, let me know.

Thanks!

-Brett
Bloomington, Indiana
USA

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:23 pm
by whistlecollector
Bretton wrote:Hi! I've been playing traditional Irish tunes on the whistle for years, but I've got a hankering to try something different. Anyone have recommendations for other specific tunes that fit on the whistle (it's range and diatonic limitations)? I don't mind half-holing to get an f-natural or g-sharp now and then, but wouldn't want to play tunes that require a lot of them.

I'm thinking maybe classical or early music, or maybe tunes from other traditions (I do know a few Scottish, Quebecois, and Shetland ones, but they're very similar to Irish) ? Or, if there are any jazz standards that sound good as solo pieces.

If you have any suggestions, let me know.

Thanks!

-Brett
Bloomington, Indiana
USA
Well, the tin whistle is a chromatic instrument, so there's really no limitation by key. Range is an issue. Depending on the whistle, there's two good octaves, or just shy thereof. Some whistles can get up into the third and maybe touch the fourth octave.

As for classical, any flute repertoire of the period should be fine. You might have to play some of the high stuff down an octave, but there are no technical reasons you can't play Quantz or Mozart or Bach on a whistle.

A few of the classical tunes in my tune books:

Mozart's Andantino in A (K298) is nice on whistle
Hummel's Theme from Op.102
Handel's Bouree from the G Maj Sonata
Fauret's Sicilienne
Mozart's Rondo alla Turca; Gavotte Les Petits Riens
Bach's Courante in G
Couperin's La Bourbonnaise
Bazzini's Ronde des Lutins
Mendelssohn's Andante con Moto (4th Symph.)
Hotteterre
Quantz
Etc.

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:24 pm
by Chifmunk
I like to play early English country dance tunes (think Playford), also early French dance tunes, and the simpler medieval tunes i find by browsing on youtube and then looking up sheet music for a tune that strikes me, online. Early hymns can be very pretty on the whistle as well. Then for fun I sometimes try early American 1800s popular tunes, like from the Civil War/minstrel tune era. So many genres to explore!

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:10 am
by Kade1301
Until this morning I would have said that playing Klezmer on the tin whistle is not a good idea (because of the accidentals and chromatic sequences) - and then somebody sent me this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KigvSmVioD0

So it looks like Whistlecollector is right and anything's possible...

However, if you want to make life easier, and if you read staff notation, there is a wonderful website where you can choose the notes you can/want to play (start with Soprano recorder with sharps for a D whistle and pick your notes, not forgetting to make sure not to have a red frame around any note (by clicking twice on a note you don't want to play). The red frame is for notes you want to practice specifically - it's a site for learners - and will limit the selection of tunes to those who contain this note.)
http://www.free-notes.net/cgi-bin/noten_index_main.pl?

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:05 am
by brewerpaul
Almost anything is possible,if not easy. How about some jazz?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8inPXiss5RU

Bluegrass?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Kg_r4G4vI

Classical?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZxgyf6yUgc

Rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej0BB7_RyB0

Whatever you like listening to, give it a try.

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:52 am
by sfmans
I play a lot of whistle and very rarely play any Irish tunes. Have a look at (tune types in brackets are not exhaustive, just example generics for searching)
Central French repertoire of bourrees, schottisches, mazurkas etc.;
Italian (monferrina, tarantella)
Breton music (an dros, hanter dros)
Swedish (polskas, schottisch, langdans)
English (Morris, step dance, Southern reels and polkas)
Northumbrian tunes

So much good stuff out there!

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:10 am
by ytliek
Browse these Youtubes for ideas what the whistle can play. Movie themes seem popular.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3UojW ... _polymer=1

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:13 am
by Tyler DelGregg
Most tunes I play are Irish or Scottish, but just about any tune I like and can memorize gets played. That includes Renaissance, medieval, folk, Appalachian ballads, and even a Marlene Dietrich hit called,
Lili Marlene.

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:51 am
by DrPhill
After some help on this forum I rather enjoy playing this.

I am not hugely interested in irish dance music, but I really like the slow air(e)s. I play anything I can that I like, and my tastes are catholic (with a small c). Even spaghetti western movie music :P .

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:24 am
by Bretton
Thanks for the suggestions everyone! :)

-Brett

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:44 pm
by Peter Duggan
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Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:49 pm
by awildman
Yup, movies and video games have a vast repertoire that fits whistle well. The Shire piece and the Misty Mountain piece from LOTR series are pretty popular. Can find tutorials on YouTube. I play a piece from The Final Fantasy franchise called Sad Romance on whistle. It takes a bit of folding and such, but it is easily playable on whistle.

If you like a good waltz, there are lots of waltzes out there. There are three books by Mathiesen (sp?)that are good, if you do sheet music. I play a beautiful tune called Bakers Waltz by Alicia Jo Rabins (not in any books I know of) on whistle. Again, a bit of folding but extremely playable.

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:50 pm
by whistlecollector
Kade1301 wrote:Until this morning I would have said that playing Klezmer on the tin whistle is not a good idea (because of the accidentals and chromatic sequences) - and then somebody sent me this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KigvSmVioD0
Can't tell from the video what he's doing about accidentals. But I do know that our Daniel Bingamon makes / made a "Jewish Penny Whistle":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLxxYkAoSQ

Also the Ahava Rabba whistle:

http://www.tonyhinnigan.com/moviedl.php?group=29#

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:58 am
by benhall.1
whistlecollector wrote:
Kade1301 wrote:Until this morning I would have said that playing Klezmer on the tin whistle is not a good idea (because of the accidentals and chromatic sequences) - and then somebody sent me this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KigvSmVioD0
Can't tell from the video what he's doing about accidentals.
He's just half-holing. I rather liked that video. Two nice-seeming people sitting and having a tune. Lovely!

:)

Re: Non-Irish music that fits on the whistle?

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:04 am
by seanpmoran
Rather counter-intuitively ... it depends on the key of the whistle. I've found that using a Bb whistle (specifically a McManus blackwood) has allowed me to expand my repertoire enormously.

Tunes that I can now play include:

Girl from Ipanema
I will wait for you (Legrand)
Petit fleur
Ave Maria (Schubert)
Mission impossible

They are quite chromatic, devilishly so on both a standard D whistle and a low D whistle, but, for a reason I can't fathom, playable on a Bb McManus (and probably on other top-flight wooden whistles too). Bb seems to be in the 'Goldilocks' zone between high and low whistles. And wood seems to be congenial to chromaticism ... at least in my hands.

If anyone want to know the fingering techniques for those tunes, I'd be happy to oblige.

ITM is grand, but an expanded repertoire is more appealing to many listeners.

All the best,

Sean in Tipperary.