What is this low whistle please?
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What is this low whistle please?
Take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUmQgVIQsGg At first glance it looks like a Goldie but check out the holes? What is it and what key?
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
Interesting. Could be tuning rings or (rather low) chimneys. Or simply decorative.Mikethebook wrote:Take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUmQgVIQsGg At first glance it looks like a Goldie but check out the holes? What is it and what key?
Couldn't find anything about the whistle itself, though I guess you could pop on down to London next month and ask?
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
Don't understand. Is Calum Stewart playing in London?
Re: What is this low whistle please?
Nice music. Thanks for the link. Now I'm going to have buy a CD.Mikethebook wrote:Take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUmQgVIQsGg At first glance it looks like a Goldie but check out the holes? What is it and what key?
I looked at the whistle and do not know what brand it is. I think maybe the two raised tone holes give stregth to the low end?
I also watched the next tune with Calum Stewart playing what looks like a Goldie?
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
Yes, that was a Goldie, I think, possibly an A. Here's Calum Stewart playing the mystery whistle so it's probably his and it looks like a Low D. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBLPNFUxdAc. This also from the new album.
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Indeed!Mikethebook wrote:Don't understand. Is Calum Stewart playing in London?
http://www.heathstreet.org/events/calum ... uary-2018/
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
Here's my theory: the whistle was originally made with offset holes, but somebody wanted inline holes, so they put rings/collars on to seal the original holes, and new inline holes were drilled.
It's those two holes which are offset sometimes, to customer's order.
I've encountered a number of old Overtons over the years with strange hole configurations, it's why that possibility came to mind.
I retro-fitted a whistle once with a tuning slide using similar tubing one telescoping size larger. It would be easy enough, and very inexpensive, to move fingerholes that way. Though I myself would probably have bought a new whistle-body from the maker (though if it's a vintage Overton that's not an option).
Is it just me or is the whistle inaudible?
It's those two holes which are offset sometimes, to customer's order.
I've encountered a number of old Overtons over the years with strange hole configurations, it's why that possibility came to mind.
I retro-fitted a whistle once with a tuning slide using similar tubing one telescoping size larger. It would be easy enough, and very inexpensive, to move fingerholes that way. Though I myself would probably have bought a new whistle-body from the maker (though if it's a vintage Overton that's not an option).
Is it just me or is the whistle inaudible?
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Goldie Low D whistle
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1945 Starck Highland pipes
Goldie Low D whistle
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
pancelticpiper wrote: Is it just me or is the whistle inaudible?
I spent a while looking for the mic, and I still don't see one. It's probably artfully hidden somewhere, but put a set of pipes next to a low whistle and the pipes will beat it out anytime. I can just barely make the whistle out if I concentrate on it, and only really in the upper octave.
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Not just you, I can barely hear it.pancelticpiper wrote:Here's my theory: the whistle was originally made with offset holes, but somebody wanted inline holes, so they put rings/collars on to seal the original holes, and new inline holes were drilled.
It's those two holes which are offset sometimes, to customer's order.
I've encountered a number of old Overtons over the years with strange hole configurations, it's why that possibility came to mind.
I retro-fitted a whistle once with a tuning slide using similar tubing one telescoping size larger. It would be easy enough, and very inexpensive, to move fingerholes that way. Though I myself would probably have bought a new whistle-body from the maker (though if it's a vintage Overton that's not an option).
Is it just me or is the whistle inaudible?
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
My theory is the raised holes are for quick fingering location and strengthening particular notes. I too have difficulty hearing whistle well.
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
Putting a collar around a hole then drilling through a double thickness would make the chimney twice as high, which I don't think would strengthen the note.
In my experience making the walls of a woodwind thicker gives the notes coming out of the holes darker and softer. That's the last thing you would want from Holes 3 and 6, which are the most out-of-position from the standpoint of acoustics, already the darkest and softest notes.
Until the person who did the modification explains, I'll stick to my theory that it was a matter of resizing and/or repositioning those holes. I wonder if the modification was done by the present owner, or some previous owner.
In my experience making the walls of a woodwind thicker gives the notes coming out of the holes darker and softer. That's the last thing you would want from Holes 3 and 6, which are the most out-of-position from the standpoint of acoustics, already the darkest and softest notes.
Until the person who did the modification explains, I'll stick to my theory that it was a matter of resizing and/or repositioning those holes. I wonder if the modification was done by the present owner, or some previous owner.
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c1980 Quinn uilleann pipes
1945 Starck Highland pipes
Goldie Low D whistle
c1980 Quinn uilleann pipes
1945 Starck Highland pipes
Goldie Low D whistle
Re: What is this low whistle please?
I’ve seen something similar on Gary Somers aluminium flute.
He says it’s to strengthen the E I think.
“A thicker wall on the bottom hole reinforces the E note.”
http://somers-flutes.com/aluminium-flute-delrin-head
He says it’s to strengthen the E I think.
“A thicker wall on the bottom hole reinforces the E note.”
http://somers-flutes.com/aluminium-flute-delrin-head
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Re: What is this low whistle please?
Mystery solved. The whistle is a one-off small bore low D made by Colin Goldie for Calum Stewart who had requirements regarding playability and the strengthening of certain notes. That is the end result.
Re: What is this low whistle please?
Yes, that is what Tommy Said.Tommy wrote: I think maybe the two raised tone holes give stregth to the low end?
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Nicely said, and you ought to know!Tommy wrote:Yes, that is what Tommy Said.Tommy wrote: I think maybe the two raised tone holes give stregth to the low end?