Tin penny whistle
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Re: Tin penny whistle
Anyone who doesn’t think that the whistle is fully panchromatic clearly hasn’t heard John Coltrane play it.
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Re: Tin penny whistle
It's sensitive to all visible light?
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Re: Tin penny whistle
Well spotted! Thanks for shining a light on a multiple use of the word "chromatic". In the shade of the musical instrument world, we have long-established the naming of harmonicas that play all the established notes, as a "chromatic" instrument, VS the more whistle-like "diatonic" instruments in keys. I'm wondering if some weird kind of synesthesia was involved, or lack of a local dictionary in harmonica-maker homes, or photography inventors homes, but we're stuck with the streamlined logic of it. They missed their chance to clarify some things with better labels. Frequencies being the determining factor in both light colour and sound "note", there is a bit of logic of allowing "chromatic" to serve for both sound and light.Peter Duggan wrote:It's sensitive to all visible light?
When the good folks at Pantone start designing ukulele's, or whistle makers design acrylic paints, we're in for a ruckus. They'd say, "this instrument is tuned to play Cerulean blue, cobalt orange, Spanish rose red and Lush Meadow green." In music though, it's still a deception; any instrument that is pre-set to play notes or has frets, isn't "chromatic" unless you alter the mechanics by bending a string or bend a note on a harmonica. So "chromatic" is relative, not absolute. It's very deceptive marketing. If words mean anything at all, Suzuki and Hohner "chromatic" harmonicas are not chromatic unless you the performer bend the notes regularly. They also aren't diatonic, because they have more notes than diatonics. A talented diatonic player can play just as many frequencies as a chromatic harmonica player, just not as easily. So those "chromatic" instruments are as yet not named properly, and buyers should be demanding 35% discounts.
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Re: Tin penny whistle
It gets even more complicated because the so-called "diatonic" harmonicas are not even completely diatonic. They are missing a few notes. The so-called Richter-tuning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_tuning
But there are also normal diatonic harmonicas without those missing notes. Completely threw me off when I tried to play one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_tuning
But there are also normal diatonic harmonicas without those missing notes. Completely threw me off when I tried to play one.
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Re: Tin penny whistle
Harmonicas are only following established musical convention re. the chromatic scale.RoberTunes wrote:I'm wondering if some weird kind of synesthesia was involved, or lack of a local dictionary in harmonica-maker homes
It's not a deception at all; if you can play all 12 semitones, it's musically chromatic. Just not panchromatic!In music though, it's still a deception; any instrument that is pre-set to play notes or has frets, isn't "chromatic" unless you alter the mechanics by bending a string or bend a note on a harmonica.
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Re: Tin penny whistle
That would be your slide whistle.Peter Duggan wrote:Just not panchromatic!
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Re: Tin penny whistle
Or the humble noseflute:
https://youtu.be/kuCzbae7VWM
https://youtu.be/kuCzbae7VWM
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Re: Tin penny whistle
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I have a eagle penny whistle but I don’t know it’s history however it is modern construction ie plastic mouthpiece and I’d looks like feadog Irish traditional D it also splits in two.
Any ideas?
I have a eagle penny whistle but I don’t know it’s history however it is modern construction ie plastic mouthpiece and I’d looks like feadog Irish traditional D it also splits in two.
Any ideas?
Nanohedron wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2019 4:54 pmBecause you said "tin", I assume the metal was either indeedWhat1cand0 wrote:There was one listed on eBay, but it has been sold and is no longer available.