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 Forum: The Chiff and Fipple Whistle Forum   Topic: What's the story behind some tune-titles?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2001 9:03 pm 

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I downloaded a song called "Mrs. Durkin" that's done by Wylde Nept and has a line that goes something like this, "no more I'll dig the praties, no longer I'll be poor". Potatoes are what came to mind from listening to the song, but you never know. Now I do. Thanks for answering an unasked question.

Rick

 Forum: The Chiff and Fipple Whistle Forum   Topic: Where's Avanturia?!?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:26 pm 

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Quote:
On 2002-10-10 21:19, tyghress wrote:
{blinking sleepily} whazzup about 11/21, which HAPPENS to be the birthdate of a certain stripy Cat?

By the way...Serpent, it's ALWAYS about YOU, isn't it? {chuckling, and returning to nap}


... my pets are all cats, and I learn...

And I pursue through all the doors
Those who travel on all fours
Be cat or dog or gopher, wylde
Still, I'll devour thee yet, my chylde!

... Syrpent ...

(Ar, ar, ar!! :grin: )
Bill Whedon

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: 1860 Rudall, Rose & Carte 9 Key Wooden Flute now on ebay

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:29 pm 

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... find a listing in a catalogue yesterday for a Pratten model made by Boose, a french maker who worked for a time with Boosey. But Pratten spent much more time working on devising a wood flute in the cylindrical bore profile that used the old flute fingerings on a keyed system such as Boehm. I'm not sure whether he got it as perfectly as he liked when he died at age 38. Every time I find myself believing that Rudall/Rose got it right at the end of their careers, mostly through the work of Mr. Wylde, then I run into an early Rudall that is a beautifully wonderful player in every respect. I think so much was changing at the time that they kept retooling just to keep up with demand and popularity, not to mention ever-fluctuating tunings across the continent. Loren you make a good point about the best players in the world opting for modern makers. True enough. But many of those players will tell you that finding a good, in-tune Rudall or Pratten is difficult, not because they don't exist, ...

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Tony Bingham

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2002 11:25 am 

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could be a Wylde.
If so, likely a pretty good flute worth saving since he was one of the key makers for Rudall & Rose before going off on his own.
However, he often marked his flutes as: "Wyle/from Rudall & Rose"

 Forum: The Chiff and Fipple Whistle Forum   Topic: Why don't more "Irish" music artists utilizing MP3.com?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 10:36 am 

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Amano, Anthea Lawrence, Bardic, Beat Smash Square, Brian Cullen, Brobdingnagian Bards, Cailin Rua, Caleigh, Ceili Moss, Celtic Nots, Celtic Soul, Clandestine, Dust Rhinos, Emarld Fire, Emerald Rose, Forthright, Frankie Gavin, George Nathaniel Lawton, Gypsy Soul, Jim Lawrence, Keegan, Lorica, Mick Tobin, Muckle Flugga, One Eyed Fiona Slainte, Smokin’ Shamrocks, The Black Velvet Band, The Buccaneers, The Homespun Ceilidh Band, The Omadhauns, The Rising Pints, Twisty Willow, Wylde Nept, Yankee Celtic Consort

 Forum: The Chiff and Fipple Whistle Forum   Topic: Why don't more "Irish" music artists utilizing MP3.com?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 11:23 am 

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On 2002-11-25 11:36, srt19170 wrote:
Amano, Anthea Lawrence, Bardic, Beat Smash Square, Brian Cullen, Brobdingnagian Bards, Cailin Rua, Caleigh, Ceili Moss, Celtic Nots, Celtic Soul, Clandestine, Dust Rhinos, Emarld Fire, Emerald Rose, Forthright, Frankie Gavin, George Nathaniel Lawton, Gypsy Soul, Jim Lawrence, Keegan, Lorica, Mick Tobin, Muckle Flugga, One Eyed Fiona Slainte, Smokin’ Shamrocks, The Black Velvet Band, The Buccaneers, The Homespun Ceilidh Band, The Omadhauns, The Rising Pints, Twisty Willow, Wylde Nept, Yankee Celtic Consort

You forgot Lothlorien (unless they've since dropped off MP3.com). Excellent group and MP3.com is the only place (outside of bootleg rips on usenet) that I've seen their CDs.

John

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Tony Bingham

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 12:33 am 

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Interesting eBay flute.
Odd, though, the mark shows"Wylde/London"
but Wylde usually marked his flutes as "Wylde/from Rudall & Rose/London" so I'm not sure about this one.
Too, the foot keys are different than what Wylde normally made. However, it might be an earlier model.
Interesting nonetheless.

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Rudall & Rose vs Prowse vs Pratten?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 2:07 pm 

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... some modifications, but Pratten actually died at a young age before he could finish his studies on bore design and what he wanted to accomplish. Boosey & Co merely kept the 8-key as a novelty sale for those who preferred it over the ever-encroaching Boehm flute.<p> That's why the makers of today rely on these three flute makers' work, because they were the most eminent at the time of the 8-key models. Others, too, made wonderful flutes, but their work wasn't as extensively known, such as Wylde (who worked for Rudall/Rose) and Binyon (whose shop was just down the street from Rudall's).<p> The character of each flute is very different. I play one of each almost constantly and rotate between them since each has a different flair and color of tone.<p> The Clementi/Nicholson (by Prowse) is very dark and reedy (which Nicholson especially liked).<p> The Rudall I play most is a later one (#6208, c.1850) and it's very bright and clear, a stiff bottom note and crystalline upper register. ...

 Forum: The Chiff and Fipple Whistle Forum   Topic: Fun Songs

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:02 pm 

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Beer, Beer, Beer
Johnny Jump Up
Ugly Mrs. Fenn (by Wylde Nept)
Mrs. Durkin

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Real Rudall on eBay

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:59 am 

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... today's standard, and does it well? Look harder. But they DO exist. Over 50 years, R&R made about 7200 of their simple-system flutes of 8 (or so) keys. That's 144 on average a year. About a third are now in museums (of those still in existence which, by long guess is roughly 1500-2000). Patrick's a young guy. He's got many years left to make great flutes. Did the key work and body designs change at RR? Of course they did. Different people were making the instruments over time. In fact, when Wylde left the shop but continued to deliver flutes on contract, the foot key work along went back to the overlap rather than crescent. Too, German Silver came into vogue because of expense. The short-F key touches alone have about 5 different designs. The cups went through about as many morphs. Rings? Too many to describe here. Anyway....I hope that clarifies a couple things and obfuscates even more. That's the beauty of working on and researching these flutes. It's history, which is always an ...

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Yet another Rudall on Ebay

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:56 pm 

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Yes, Michael did tell me he found it in London when he was looking for a concertina at the time (in the '50's or maybe even 60's) for a few schillings, I recall he said it was the equivalent of a couple US dollars .

I was first struck by his playing, I think he was the first Irish fluteplayer I ever heard and I too love the sound of his flute and his playing. The flute is a bit weathered now but he makes it sound nice. It's actually stamped "Wylde from Rudall & Rose". He never played any other flute but that one. A great solo recording of his is the "The Eagle's Whistle", mighty stuff.

r

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Yet another Rudall on Ebay

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:23 am 

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The first Rudall & Rose I ever noticed went for £ 7 in an auction .I have wondered since why I didn't buy it .I have an unstamped Wylde with a Wilkes head and barrel.That plays as well as most Rudalls .Perhaps I should sell it and put the money towards the (dreadfully illustrated ) boxwood Rudall , on the theory that a chap can't have too many Rudalls .The strange thing is that the flute is offered in a new Wilkes case with a pure silk velvet lining. Does anyone know how this can be?Chris doesn't.

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Real Rudall on eBay

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:27 am 

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Chris Wilkes says he has seen plenty of R&R stamps but no JMR .Thats why I was so surprised to hear about a John Rose stamp . Does Mr Migoya have any evidence that Wylde or anybody else was ever employed in house by Rudall & Rose .Mr Bigio who has been researching extensively on the matter thinks not .The "from Rudall & Rose "stamp used by a number of outworkers may merely have indicated their pride in a valuable association . My left handed 8 Key Pond & Firth may owe something to another of them , Mr Camp .I don't know how to tell .Does anybody out there on the other side of the moon , or wherever the US of A is know any of his distinguishing features?. I know that Rudalls made the occasional lefthander , which seems odd for the victorian era .Does anybody know how many Pond & Firth might have made .People in Russia ...

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Yet another Rudall on Ebay

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:09 am 

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andrew wrote:
I have an unstamped Wylde with a Wilkes head and barrel.That plays as well as most Rudalls .Perhaps I should sell it and put the money towards the (dreadfully illustrated ) boxwood Rudall


Andrew,

This wouldn't be an 8-keyed, nickel-silver Wylde sold to you by a generous Scotsman but a few months ago would it? If so, I think the idea of selling it is a wonderful one - on the condition that it is sold back to said Scotsman who would love to hear how it should have sounded!

By the way - the Prowse is getting better by the day.

Graham

PS - if you're not who I think you are then this post will seem very stupid won't it :oops:

 Forum: Flute Forum   Topic: Yet another Rudall on Ebay

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:48 am 

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Wylde made some pretty terrific flutes.
Joe Burke's boxwood Rudall/Rose (#2928) can be seen here:
http://home.earthlink.net/~migoya/id94__2928.htm
Local resident Ann Marie Kennedy took the pictures for me at Joe's home in Galway recently, so the thanks are to her.
Joe has a cocus R/R as well, but I've not posted that photo as yet.
My own Rudall #7007 that was made by Wylde....very nice tone indeed.
I have a Camp flute, stamped "Camp from Rudall & Rose" and that makes it clear he was the master at the small-hole Rudall. I'm convinced Wylde was the large-hole master.
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